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I don't want these features either, but they specifically say up front that the AI runs locally to avoid exactly this disingenuous argument.
Show me where the data is sent back to Mozilla. It's all open source. I'll wait.
I don't need to be a source code expert to understand what Mozilla has done, thankfully. That's not a technological hurdle the average person should have to overcome. I know more than most people have the privilege to know, and further gatekeeping (any gatekeeping) is unnecessary.
If that was not your intent, or for other people who are genuinely interested:
https://noyb.eu/en/firefox-tracks-you-privacy-preserving-feature
If gatekeeping my comment was your intent, I would be happy to track down the source code as long as you made an extensive effort to get Mozilla to remove the code that collects your data...
So my bad, I didn't clock the PPA abbreviation being about the experimental adtech bullshit they pulled.
But I feel like my point still stands. Claims that Mozilla is harvesting user data should be (relatively) easily proven by audits of the source code. Disproving things tends to be harder, and I'm not the person making the claim.
I'm not "gatekeeping" shit. I'm saying that bold claims should have facts backing them up, and so far I've not been shown anything to back it up.
(Edit: to be clear, the claim that these local AI features would be an increase in user data being harvested)
You appear to have strong feelings about this, so I was hoping you had more than specious claims based entirely off a major gaffe.
I'm not saying that Firefox and Mozilla should get trust by default. I'm saying that if they are doing shit as heinous as what you claimed, there should be evidence that can be pointed to.
Even something as simple as "hey, their prepackaged versions aren't reproducable by compiling the source code".
There are enough people who care a lot about this, and the source code is right there. No one should have to speculate on any of what Mozilla is or isn't doing here as it's all out in the open.
Apology accepted.
Crazy how Mozilla has done so much stuff that people just forgot