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Any med school student should know how to macguyver an airway in an emergency. They literally teach it in civilian lifesaving classes these days. My guess is this guy was such an asshole, his entire medical staff was like "bruh I am not making the hole, you do it."
I don't know which med school or civilian lifesaving courses you attend - but emergency cricothyrotomy surely isn't a skill that is taught and mastered by any of these I teach.
Cric is a delicate skill that needs repetition and knowledge - it's far from easy and not even close to what is shown in some bad TV shows.
As a civilian what I know is hit the notch in hard cartilege approx 2 fingers below the Adam's apple, incision half an inch deep, and if you get the tube in you have to breathe for them.
And that you should only do it if there are no medical people present and the person is obviously dying.
So... how do you tell an airway obstruction requiring an improvised tracheotomy and a similarly-presenting respiratory distress (resulting from, say, catastrophically low blood potassium) apart? Because if you get that wrong suddenly someone, who needed at worst an hour of IV therapy and a flintstone chewable to make a full recovery, is drowning in their own blood.
Thank you, this is the kind of reply I was hoping for. I would love more information.
So, if the person has completely stopped breathing, and ambulances are 20+ minutes away, should I limit my response to attempted CPR?
Is it your opinion even if they have been stung by a bee etc?
Eh I have no knowledge about tracheotomy besides what I've seen on TV but I mean if push comes to shove I'm just gonna jab a pen tube in the victim's throat man, it's gotta be worth a try. /s
Hell, I'd jab a pen in your throat right now if I suspected it would somehow improve your health
iirc Epi-pen is the usual treatment, and those things are pretty easy to obtain.
I think that OP philpo is on to something, that the medical staff was a bit slow to deal with the situation.
With anaphylactic shock, the timeline could be literally seconds. He could be dead before they even figure out what's wrong.
Honestly, I think it was ignorance and/or hubris. He was either unaware of his allergy (miraculously never stung before, or developed allergy later in life), or he was kind of aware, but never assumed anything could go wrong.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -- Hanlon's Razor.