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[–] OutForARip@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (86 children)

I doubt they can beat the US, but I hope Iran wins.

Terrorists like Israel need to be eliminated.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 day ago (51 children)

Do you really want Iran to have nukes though?

Just because Israel are horrible, doesn't automatically make the people they're fighting the good guys.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (16 children)

Was Iran actually producing nuclear weapons?

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Every credible comment I've read says they're in the process of developing them, the only group who says otherwise is Iran themselves.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They havent been in the process of developing them. They have been enriching Uranium to the level needed for developing a nuclear weapon.

Iran has always been "close" to develop nuclear weapons over the past years, to ensure that it can do so to defend itself in the case of an attack. Now with Israels unprecedented attack, it is more likely that Iran sees the need to actually develop a nuke to protect its existence.

Israel knows this and keeps pushing to quickly get the US involved beyond a point of no return and fight the war against Iran for them.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They have been enriching Uranium to the level needed for developing a nuclear weapon.

Isn't that part of the process though?

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is a prerequirement.

If you produce thick steel sheets, that is a requirement to build tanks, but it doesnt mean you are building tanks.

Now if you start welding those sheets together in a tank shape, while making all the other stuff that you find in a tank, now you are building a tank.

So if Iran starts building specific parts for nukes and processing the enriched Uranium in a way that is suitable for making a warhead, that would be building a nuke.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

So if Iran starts building specific parts for nukes and processing the enriched Uranium in a way that is suitable for making a warhead, that would be building a nuke.

Which is precisely what they're doing, unless you actually believe they want that level of enrichment for a power plant.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

No matter how many tires you are stockpiling, you aren't manufacturing a car, unless you actually manufacture a car.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

By that line of reasoning, they could have all the components of a nuke, and not actually be manufacturing one until they bolt it together.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 1 points 5 hours ago

When they have all the components manufactured and the enriched Uranium in "nuke shape" then y would also say they are developing one.

But while nukes arent that complicated to build in principle, there still goes quite some trial and design efforts into it.

This most likely includes doing tests with causing a nuclear explosion. Such tests would be detectable and a certain criterium for an ongoing development.

Remember how NKs nuclear weapon propgram got a lot of attention some 10 or so years ago? We knew because the seismographs picked up the shockwaves of underground explosions.

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Israels attack follows a report from the IEAE stating that Iran has likely started the race to a bomb. They (Iran) have also recently expelled UN oversight from their enrichment sites.

I’m not defending Israel but what does that look like to you? Sure seems like for some people their hatred for Israel is clouding their objective judgement.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml -1 points 22 hours ago

Israels attack follows a report from the IEAE

And that report follows a document leak showing the IEAE actively passing on confidential reports from Iran directly to Israel.

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