That's like saying "I'm pro-life and anti-gun control".
Oh. Wait.
Edit: Guy confirmed that he is, indeed, pro-life and anti-gun control.
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Slight disagreement there. Streets are for pedestrians and bikes and trams and the occasional car (in a dedicated car lane). Roads (as in large arterial roads in very limited areas, meant for fast travel between faraway zones when trains are inconvenient, or highways between cities) can be considered as intended for cars, and even those should have pretty good space dedicated to bike lanes and pedestrian sidewalks.
Given that a car is a priviledge in most (all?) of the world, I'd argue there should be absolutely zero car-only infrastructure because it creates second class citizens for which some parts of the street are inaccesible.
Think of it this way, would you support the creation of a sidewalk in which only people who own a 50k ring can go?
A bus in a kind of car. Biking 30km in one go is a bit much too.
@Tlaloc_Temporal @stevedice One of those carries 30-100 people with lower carbon emissions, using significantly less road space, is highly affordable, and is driven by a professional driver.
The other is a private car.
Busses use car infrastructure, is my point. Almost all car infrastructure can be used to run busses. You can expand that to most utility vehicles too, postage trucks and garbage trucks need to get around too. There is no such thing as car-only infrastructure. Car-centric, sure, but not car-only.
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Busses can use car infrastructure, but sometimes they use mode-specific infrastructure that cars cannot use.
Like what? Are there special roads that busses can drive down but a sedan gets stuck on? Some kind of road made especially for the tires of the bus and no other vehicles? Like a tram system, or gondolas maybe?
Cars and busses are both road vehicles, and roads serve them both. We can put up signs and write rules about which vehicle can go where, but those are basically free to change.
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