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The man who pleaded guilty to setting a Planned Parenthood location on fire in Peoria, Ill., was sentenced to 10 years in prison Tuesday. Tyler Massengill pleaded guilty to burning the office in Fe…

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[–] lowdownfool@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

And these folks are the bread and butter for the abortion industry

Lie. Back that up with something. There is no abortion industry. There is a right-wing propaganda industry, though. Sounds like you're a customer.

not using contraceptives or having a contraceptive failure

The contraceptives that religous extremists try to limit or ban. You think we don't see this shit?

[–] 52fighters@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Just do an overlay of the number of planned parenthood clinics and the abortion rate over time. They mirror very closely. Why? Because they are the opening pipeline to the abortion industry. But we also know they have a secondary market for dead babies [link].

The rest of your commend is just throwing mud to detract from the issue. The issue is lifestyle abortions. Instead of dealing with the fact that these are the vast majority of abortions and there is no moral reasons these abortions should exist, you try to detract to arguments about contraceptives that are not going anywhere because nobody is taking away anyone's access to condoms, the pill, or other popular non-abortive contraceptives. Did you want to deal with the fact that most of these abortions are without a question immoral lifestyle abortions?

[–] lowdownfool@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (7 children)

The issue is lifestyle abortions

No, it really is not. This is a manufactured outrage by your media overlords. The issue is women's health and autonomy (aka freedom).

[–] 52fighters@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What we have is a situation with multiple, competing rights. The right to the right to a certain choice related to autonomy on one side and the right to life on the other. In a civilized society, when two rights come into conflict, we have DUE PROCESS to decide the issue. There is no due process. Nobody represents the right of the murdered children. There is no judge, jury, or tribunal. There is no effort to balance the rights of one against the rights of the other. The rights of one entirely trump the life of another. That's immoral, most especially when involving cases of lifestyle abortions.

[–] lowdownfool@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Funny how it's the people who aren't impacted that have a say in a woman's choice.

[–] 52fighters@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's about as bright as saying "Don't like slavery? Don't own slaves." There's another life whose value has been commodified and who is not represented in an essential question about their life.

[–] lowdownfool@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, it's "IF YOU HAVE A PENIS GET THE FUCK OUT OF TELLING WOMEN WHAT TO DO WITH THEIR BODIES". End of story, get it through your thick dumbass skull.

[–] 52fighters@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your logic is so profound that no man could stop a woman from burning down an abortion clinic. After all, if you stop her or arrest her, you are infringing on her freedom of movement and self-agency.

[–] lowdownfool@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just stop. We know you just want women to shut up, make your dinner, and be baby makers.

[–] 52fighters@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

All I want is for them to not be murderers and the industry that exists to support murder to be demolished. If they want to work, raise a family, remain single, go wondering around the mountains, or something else...whatever works for them.

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