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Late on Sunday night, President Volodymyr Zelensky confirmed on social media that all of the operatives of the nation’s security services, SBU, who had participated in a a raid earlier in the day that knocked out about $7 billion in Russian military aircraft within the invading country’s airfields, were safe in Ukraine and accounted for.

The operation was dubbed “Spiderweb.”

“An absolutely brilliant result,” the president wrote.

“A result achieved solely by Ukraine. One year, six months, and nine days from the start of planning to effective execution. Our most long-range operation. Our people involved in preparing the operation were withdrawn from Russian territory in time,” Zelensky wrote on Facebook.

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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 41 points 4 days ago (22 children)

I just keep thinking... This war has already changed the face of warfare forever because of the drones. But all those drones used on these frontlines are just "dumb" ones, individually operated remotely.

I assume USA (and possibly other players) are working HARD on creating autonomous swarms of these things. Being able to C&C these without a single point of failure is THE future in modern warfare. The first nation that gets this working flawlessly wins supremacy.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago (10 children)

That's just really really scary. Drones will be the new land mines, except they'll kill us in suburban centers where no soldiers are fighting.

[–] burgerchurgarr@lemmus.org 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

https://www.commondreams.org/news/israel-drones-gaza

Unfortunately that’s already a reality in Gaza. They use AI powered quadcopters murdering civilians there. There have been reports that they would even play recordings of cries for help etc. to lure people out and then shoot them.

Now imagine where this is headed. Genocide drones will be equipped with heat sensors and trained to enter flats through windows and they’ll be instructed to kill any human they can find. It’s only a matter of time at this point because what we are afraid of is already in use, we’re just not at the receiving end of it (yet).

And all of that because most friends/relatives of evil motherfuckers in the world prefer to uphold the "good tone" and family relationships over telling their friend/father/sibling that they are an evil mass murdering pile of human garbage and ideally spitting in their faces. "It's my job" is how evil wins.

trained to enter flats through windows

Direct residential entry for mass genocide remains unlikely, they're too vulnerable at close range for this to be efficient at scale. The technology can't overcome the need for lightweight assembly and will always be susceptible to a good swing from a baseball bat. This will only be used for high value targets or as a last resort while withdrawing from an area.

In urban environments they're much more likely to just blanket the area with surveillance and slaughter people in line of sight from the air, then starve the sheltering population out like a modern siege. Like what's literally happening in Gaza right now. It's far more efficient in terms of ammunition, manufacturing, and psychological warfare.

But I absolutely agree. War is still Hell, but it sure is fucking changing. We're running out of time before this asymmetry becomes mainstream and groups and leaders that are willing to deploy this technology become the only ones left.

It will still be MAD for nations to use these - as evidenced by the fact that a wartorn underdog can covertly assault a distant air field - but without major global collaboration it will be impossible to stop because unlike nuclear ICBMs these things can be built in a basement and deployed from a shed.

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