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Oh yeah, 9/11. The biggest issue of this generation. I imagine millennials in Ukraine be like “war is tough, but thank God 9/11 is over”
I don't know how old you were during 9/11 but it was an awful time to grow up. Out of nowhere you were being bombarded with messages of hate towards of nebulous group of "others". The country overnight decided that unabashed Islamophobia was in vogue (previously there was still hate but not as outright). Think the Asian hate during covid but ramped up to 11. Your country was changing (at least from a young persons perspective) and all the sudden our allies were not to be trusted (remember freedom fries?). The US became embroiled in what was ostensibly a forever war for no reason.
It wasn't the worst thing, but people were going to war again and that was very clear and very scary. The financial crashes probably take the spotlight since they affected a lot more Americans directly and it's possible that everyone knew someone who lost or had to leave their home, but 9/11 changed the country in unmistakable ways and it was scary to watch and then have to witness the fallout without really having much understanding and certainty no agency. I don't think the meme is saying all of these things are equally bad. Just pointing out that these were major events and possible inflection points in history that didn't break in favor of justice.
I was in prime conscription age. My father was called up for Vietnam but refused conscription and only the end of the conflict kept him out of jail. I had already applied with selective service as required when I turned 18 and when I saw the second tower get hit, followed by the pentagon, I was certain we were going to be in another conscripted war. Anyone who blows off the impact of 9/11 wasn't there for it. Anyone who thinks it is history doesn't realize how many rights we lost on that day that we will never get back doesn't understand.
I couldn't agree more. Things might have turned out similarly regardless, but there's a non-zero chance that without it the patriot act, the second bush term, and the following collapse of civil liberties would not have occurred, or at least would have taken more time or a different path. Sometimes you see people say al-Qaeda won that day and though I don't think anyone really won, sine it and the aftermath were devastating worldwide, they certainly had some of their aims accomplished.