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[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 42 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Liberals can be influenced by words and memes, fascists need something stronger.

[–] Ryick@lemm.ee 1 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I wouldn’t confuse tolerance and ability to reason with weakness. Picking up an AR15 is just a last resort when, literally, all else fails, not a first resort.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Picking up an AR15 is just a last resort when, literally, all else fails

On the other hand, how late is too late? The later you leave it, the more innocent people might be imprisoned, exiled or killed, so I'd say we're obliged to draw a balance somewhere sooner than literally all else.

Let's consider the rise of the NSDAP (Nazi Party) in Germany - when is the point where that level of physical violence became appropriate? Try picking a specific year or event. Try doing the same with other fascist regimes, like Italy's fascist party.

Using this knowledge, where is the red line with the current US regime? Innocent people are already being repressed, imprisoned and exiled.


When the Nazis came for the communists,

I kept quiet; I wasn't a communist.


When they came for the trade unionists, I kept quiet;

I wasn't a trade unionist.


When they locked up the Social Democrats, I kept quiet;

I wasn't a social democrat.


When they locked up the Jews, I kept quiet;

I wasn't a Jew.


When they came for me, there was no one left to protest.


  • Translation of Lutherian Pastor Martin Niemöller's famous poem.

The same principle applies for physical resistance. Divide and conquer is an effective strategy and already in the fascist playbook.

[–] Ryick@lemm.ee 1 points 19 hours ago

If the imprisonment of innocent people becomes anything other than rare, or if innocent people are being exiled or killed, then that implies logical analysis is not being followed or even considered but, instead, replaced with an immature and short-sighted subjective reality, meaning all else has already failed.

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