HRT is already mandatory to compete at basically every level. The whole "you can just identify as a woman and compete" is scaremongering by transphobes.

Someone can be born a man, reap the benefits of a male puberty(bone structure, height, ect.), then become a trans woman athlete. That is a completely controllable path that circumvents some amount of training and preparation other participants in the sport have to do.

You make it sound like being trans is a choice one can make to give themselves an advantage, and let me just say, yikes. Being trans is not a completely controllable path, just as your height or if you're left handed is not.

The median trans woman is likely taller than the median cis woman. This does not justify why she should be excluded. We don't treat other categories like this, either. The median Dutch woman is taller than the median Korean woman. But you don't see politicians making a fuss about the Dutch in sports, now do you?

[–] Lumbardo@reddthat.com 1 points 3 months ago (4 children)

It can be completely controllable if one so chooses

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

What are you trying to say? You're either saying being trans is a choice (yikes!)

Or you're saying cis men would go through years of transition, crippling dysphoria from transitioning into the wrong gender, the social ostracization that comes from being transgender in general and a trans athlete in specific, all to... get a potential, marginal advantage? That's a fantasy.

Either way, I don't get your point

[–] Lumbardo@reddthat.com 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The amount of emotions you superimpose over the discussion doesn't change the fact that it is a highly repeatable avenue to gain an advantage. Unlike the genetic markers you have mentioned.

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The amount of emotions you superimpose

???

highly repeatable avenue to gain an advantage.

who would do this? seriously

[–] Lumbardo@reddthat.com 1 points 3 months ago

There are athletes that forgo companionship, marriage, having children, etc. to improve in their sport. It is not uncommon for people to withstand tremendous sacrifice to reach their goals.

We have entered the subjectivity debate, which I am not interested in having. This was an interesting conversation nonetheless.

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