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[–] over_clox@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Either way, whether you birth or grow a child, you are contributing to the population.

Your money doesn't matter, +1 human is +1 human. As if we don't have enough already...

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

At the end of the day there still needs to be a population, and a sudden demographic collapse is much more devastating than overpopulation. We have a lot of systems that are dependent on being manned by a lot of people, and putting the kibosh on all births would leave a lot of vacant spots we can't fill right now.

Pump the brakes on Malthusian scaremongering just a little bit, okay?

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

We have so many automated systems these days that there's less demand for human labor. If there isn't a robot to do it, there's a spreadsheet calculator to do it.

It's getting harder to find work these days, now that companies are automating workers out of a job. Go ahead, see how many cashier openings there are at your nearest Walmart.

Self checkout anybody?

[–] Iteria@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Unless you are actively for killing people once they hit a certain age, demographic collapse is a real problem. You cannot care for the elderly with nothing but robots. Elders need healthcare. They need people in general and unlike young people they don't move from dead rotting towns. In demographic collapse they don't even have anyone to make them because they don't have kids.

See Japan for how demographic collapse is working out. Young people are being crushed by the weight of what it takes to care for too many old people. And the cycle is only getting worse because of course young people don't have kids when very stressed. Japan has whole towns going to rot. They're economy is experiencing negative effects from not having the expected amount of workers for what they need.

You really want a gradually declining population. You want your birth rate to be about 2. 2.1 is the replacement rate. Currently the US is the only developed country doing this and mostly by accident due to immigration. The US is experiencing a much less pronounced pension crisis than other developed nations. Instead we can focus exclusively on our fascist regime bid for power. That's our of population decline as well, but we get to fight against it since the US is fairly balanced in demographics (for now. It remains to be seen how the millennial generation will handle being dominant generation in a decade or so)

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