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[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz -3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (4 children)

I’m gonna have to explain this out very simply: blackface has a long history going back more than a century before Obama was even born.

what does this have to do with anything

There do exist racist caricatures of Chinese people with squinty eyes. Pooh does not have the squinty eyes. Ive yet to see any evidence of Pooh being used as a racist caricature before Xi Jinping.

okay, he's still yellow... and who cares if it was used before that or not? I genuinely have no idea what that has to do with anything

As a forum moderator, you see chinese person being a yellow bear, and tigger being obama... seems racist, better remove because it seems like a racist charicature.

None of the history of it matters at all in my eyes. I honestly and genuinely don't see why it matters to you.

I think you accidentally admitted the real issue: Pooh is silly, soft, and generally not that smart. Certain types of rulers need to be seen as strong, powerful, and perhaps even ruthless at all times. The real offense is a possible degradation of his “strong man” image.

then make a charicature that makes fun of that and isn't yellow, I would be fine with that

[–] rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

then make a charicature that makes fun of that and isn’t yellow, I would be fine with that

How would you feel about a white Pooh bear?

[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz -1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

Weird, but for design reasons, I'd be COMPLETELY fine with making fun of Xi with that, if that had been the original design of winnie, though

It really just comes down to winnie being yellow, for me.

[–] rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

So you're arguing that the historical context of Pooh"s design matters, and I fully agree.

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Would it make a difference to know that these are the original designs? Would you consider the original designs to be permittable?

[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

No, because my claim is not that the author of winnie the pooh created a racist charicature, my claim is that the author of the meme did.

if the author of the meme used these versions the meme would be fine