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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.


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All posts should follow this basic structure:

  1. Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?
  2. What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?
  3. Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).
  4. Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).
  5. Explain why you think its unfair and how you would like the situation to be remedied.

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Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.

Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.

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Absolutely no jokery allowed it seems XD

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[–] Godric@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (13 children)

Why does it exclusively fail when discussing topics I have been led to believe China censors online, but works perfectly otherwise?

[–] liyunxiao@sh.itjust.works -1 points 13 hours ago (12 children)

Because the host you're using, or the specific model, has those censors enabled to follow state law, just as all US hosted LLMs will have to call the gulf of Mexico the Gulf of America within the year.

Use the uncensored model and run it locally. Or better yet don't use LLMs whatsoever since they destroy the earth faster than crypto while providing even less benefit.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (5 children)

Ask a Chinese person if Winnie the Pooh is censored. Or any Chinese source.

It’s simply not.

Because the host you’re using, or the specific model, has those censors enabled to follow state law,

🤣

[–] liyunxiao@sh.itjust.works -3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

A) LLMs are not a source. They never will be. They do not have the capacity to say true things any more than any other random number generator.

B) the reason the exact question you asked is censored is not because of Winnie the Pooh, a chapter featured to this day on tv, in theme parks, in children's books, and across the internet. It is because the only response from the training data the LLM was trained on could generate is disinformation as forbidden by mainland law. No, Chinese users on WeChat didn't start the meme. This is categorically false, and instead of repeating this explanation constantly to whatever racist fuck tries to justify it, sites and information to the contrary are simply blocked.

It's less work to fight bigots that way. Imagine if a bunch of people suddenly claimed that a picture of Obama as a monkey was made by black Americans as a total in joke about how he walked one time because that makes sense. Instead of explaining to every person that wonders if it's true, just don't even entertain the question.

In the West, smart people call the technique being blocked JAQing off, aka 'im just asking questions.' it's a staple argumentative technique of fascists, and it takes more energy to interact with than just stopping it at the source.

You can disagree with that method, that we should waste time addressing every bigoted question a million billion times, but as we see in the US that simply does not work so you need to present another solution.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

You just wrote five paragraphs to tell me it's easier not to write anything at all. I gotta stop talking to you before you have an aneurysm, this has got to be bad for your mental health. 😆

[–] liyunxiao@sh.itjust.works -2 points 12 hours ago

Well I can't help you. I hope you get better but youre too far gone for me. Good luck in climbing out of the spiral and learning empathy.

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