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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 42 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (27 children)

An asshole is an asshole is an asshole, don't you dare act like it's not these women's fault if they have no compassion.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 32 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (18 children)

I never claimed it wasn't. Shitty people are going to be shitty but they feel comfortable being shitty in the way that they are, in public, because the patriarchy has made that normal. I never excused her behavior, I identified it as being connected to a much broader sociological issue.

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (13 children)

Hey comrade, I am seriously glad that comment like yours are starting to not be accepted anymore.

I somehow agree with you, the patriarchy harms everyone. But it does not help anyone to slap it in the face of men who are suffering, and also I disagree that a faceless concept has more responsibility than the people pushing it forward.

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 43 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Honestly, 'patriarchy' is a terrible term that leads to so much confusion. Too many people use it as 'blame men' and forget that it's supposed to be about men being culturally cast as perfect leaders and therefore punished for not meeting those impossible standards.

I have high hopes that the spreading acceptance of transfolk will start to break down the weird gender roles we've got, and maybe we can talk about some of this stuff more directly.

[–] ctenidium@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Thank you for pointing out this. I hat the term 'patriarchy'. I can see the people here using this term are trying to make a point. But it seems to me, that the wording 'patriarchy' hints towards to that ultimately men are to blame. It is also unnerving that feminism tends to excuse problems that women really have is systemic, while trouble that men have is caused by individually shitty behaviour.

I very much would like a society, where every human regardless of gender is being met with the same empathy.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You know, I hadn't really thought about the benefit that LGBTQ+ acceptance plays in this.

Of everyone who has been so supportive of me, it's been my queer and non-binary friends.

I am a straight white male with money. While it upsets me to see women saying stuff like this post, I also know that I am not going to blame the women perpetuating the problem, because they themselves are victims of toxic masculinity and established gender norms.

[–] accideath@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

I have a lot of queer friends (being pansexual myself) and I love the general awareness of mental health at least within my social circle (mainly well educated people throughout their 20s). For example it’s incredibly refreshing not to have to make excuses if you don’t feel like being around people that day, instead just being able to say just that without judgement.

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