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[โ€“] wewbull@feddit.uk 24 points 6 days ago (6 children)

As a long term LibDem voter, mainly because of PR, this is one of the few issues I disagree on.

Another elected house isn't desirable and I'm generally fine with it being a house full of experienced politicians and subject matter experts. I'd like to reform the appointment process to avoid the stuffing we've seen from Johnson and Truss. The Lords Spiritual should be ended as a group. I have no problem with community leaders being appointed, which may include religious leaders, but not as a fixed role in the house.

I see all of that as fairly minor reform. Not rip it up and start again.

[โ€“] frazorth@feddit.uk 1 points 3 days ago

I think devolution of powers should be considered first. Ignore the Lords initially because they dont really matter in the grand scheme of things. When the Tories really wanted something they just submit it several times until the Lords couldn't say no.

We have good examples with Wales and Scotland, and so geographically we should do the same to England and split into 3 regions.

Southeast, Southwest and North, where in this context the "south" stretches up to Nottingham. Move the Commons to either Birmingham or Leeds, and limit their powers to the overarching national policies that would normally also cover the UK. Voting for the province would be AV, and Commons would be PR or STV. Although we should probably devolve more powers, which would get more traction if we were able to have better representation.

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