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[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 47 points 4 days ago (7 children)

"Trump can't actually do any of those horrible things," -friend who doesn't understand politics and hasn't been following anything

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

Trump's going to put a bunch of social media grifters and narcissists into his cabinet and really get things done. The GOP is simply too competent to fail.

We definitely won't have municipal elections in 2025 or state elections in 2026. And nothing will go so wrong that people abandon the Republican Party like they did in 2018.

Elections will be cancelled, just like they were after 2002 and 2016, when Republicans had a three branch monopoly. And no liberal will ever be so popular as to threaten establishment conservative politics.

[–] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Man. I want to believe that, I really do.

But the man literally led a coup attempt. A shitty, ineffective one, but he tried nonetheless.

Last time Trump was held back by guardrails, people in the administrative government and in his cabinet kept his worst behavior in check.

This time, we're already seeing plans to dismantle all that. Only install loyalists, remove anyone else. As in, literally demoting military higher ups who won't kiss the ring.

I just hope they're still too incompetent to do any irreversible damage. But fuck me, man. It's hard to be hopeful.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

From what I hear, one of the most important guardrails last time was the 5S system: smile, say sure, subsequently shred. Trump lacks focus and follow through for anything except his core interests, so some of the people close to him apparently got away with simply not carrying out some of his more boneheaded demands.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, but that was when he wanted the appearance of respectability and brought in some establishment Republicans who hadn’t drank the koolaid. The people he’s nominating now are loyalists through and through who won’t have any reservations to give in to his worse demands.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I'm not sure it was ever about respectability. I think he just didn't have his shit together to actually be president. Campaigns usually start making transition plans long ahead of the election.

The other thing was that he didn't have as much of a stranglehold on the Republican Party in 2016. It was still very possible to be a politician in open opposition to Donald Trump. So when it came time to pick someone, he couldn't pick and choose proven loyalists. He just had to choose from among ranks of people who may or may not be hostile.

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