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Too bad private email access is essentially dead. Any service not requiring another email or phone number to sign up gets quickly shut down. A casualty in the war on whistleblowers.
Proton requires email?
Yes, tho it days it dosent store it, ill leave it up to you what you do whit that.
They do store it and have provided it to authorities in the past. In their defense, modern laws require you to hand over any data you have or get shut down. But they already knew that, yet choose to ask for it anyways knowing that they have to give it away if asked to.
They provided it to Swiss authorities, with a notice that it happened to their customers. They do not have any requirement to share it with other governments.
i guess corpos gonna corpo folks... even the "good" ones
i did not realize you needed anything to create rando emails. i know google started that shit 5 years ago tho
I don't think you are required to provide a secondary email, but you get less features without it.
i see... that is a dark pattern in of itself, why does proton need this info and why are they willing to incentiveze users sharing it.
How is offering users the option to set a backup/recovery email a dark pattern?
i misspoke
As far as I understand it, this is only recovery emails and I think it explicitly has some sort of warning about this when setting it. This is different than the email prompt on sign up.
I wouldn't trust them not to store the initial one as well tbh. Nothing technically stops that and it's in their interests.
They don’t ask for one on signup. I just signed up recently while using Tor on Tails, and was not required to provide an email for any reason. The only thing that happens is you get a warning in the account panel saying you won’t be able to recover your account if you lose the recovery codes.
I didn’t even know it asked for an email for sign up. I just remember the recovery email.
You don’t have to have one, this is misinformation.