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[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 30 points 1 week ago (12 children)

But gender did play a role. Time and again, voters, very often women themselves, told me that they just didn’t think that “America is ready for a female president”. People said they couldn’t “see her in the chair” and asked if I “really thought a woman could run the country”. One person memorably told me that she couldn’t vote for Harris because “you don’t see women building skyscrapers”. Sometimes, these people would be persuaded, but more often than not it was a red line. Many conversations would start with positive discussions on policy and then end on Harris and her gender. That is an extraordinary and uncomfortable truth.

There's many valid criticism of Harris but this one is by far the stupidest. I wonder how many people had this influence their vote. I don't think she lost the election over it, but it would be interesting to see a number on America's level of misogyny.

[–] htrayl@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I pretty strongly believe that if Harris was a man she would have won, even if you swap nothing else out. In the end, it doesn't take a lot of misogyny to change the electoral map. Just enough disinterest voters.

Of course, I will keep shouting into the rafters that we need to have a bigger discussion rather than nitpicking over campaign messaging, policy promises, or whatever. A literal bag of shit should be able to be Donald Trump. It shouldn't be a competition at all.

[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't think so personally. If you're the type where your vote is dictated by the gender of the candidate then you're likely already voting red regardless.

That being said, there isn't enough data out there to accurately state the real reasons why she was lost so I can't actually say that you're wrong.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not voting is an option. And Harris got 13m fewer voters than Biden last year. Where do you think they went?

[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

Harris did a lot of stupid shit that disenfranchised a lot of voters. She banked on the fact that most of the left would rally to her because of their hatred of Trump while also trying to court the moderates and Republican voters. All that failed catastrophically.

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