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[–] Saleh@feddit.org 47 points 4 days ago (12 children)

Less people voted Trump in 2024 than in 2020. It is not that Trump won, it is that Biden/Harris lost hard.

Trump: 74 Mio. in 2020, 73 Mio. in 2024

Biden/Harris: 81 Mio. in 2020, 69 Mio. in 2024

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election

[–] FatCrab@lemmy.one 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

No. It is that Trump won with the support of over 70 million Americans. People are responsible for their choices. jfc

Everyone saying Trumps totals didn't change, yes, but their composition absolutely did change. But even that is besides the point. Even if they staged exactly the same, that's still really fucking problematic and its absurd to give these people cover for being shitasses.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Trump didnt gain or loose many voters.

Biden/Harris lost a lot of voters.

So really the change between 2020 and 2024 is not a popularity increase for Trump, but a huge popularity loss for Biden/Harris.

Now the question is, how did Biden/Harris manage to be so unpopular, that 12 million people decided to rather risk Trump winning, than vote for them again?

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Answer : Russian propaganda about Harris supporting a genocide, while blatantly dodging the question of trumps desire for Israel to "finish the job".

People are gonna get exactly what they voted for (or really, failed to vote against) in the next 4 years.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Russian propaganda about Harris supporting a genocide,

So its not true then, its just propoganda?

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Propaganda does not mean lies.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago

It's the same group voting trump, nothing changed there, but what did change I wonder....

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, Dems should have been able to put a wet turd on the ticket and beat Trump. The people who voted for Trump are the actual problem.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Doesn't your first statement imply that the dems flubbed an easy victory? Combined with the fact that Trump didn't gain many voters? If the election was supposed to be that easy to win, isn't it the dem campaign strat that is the problem? HEY WHITE WOMEN YOU LIKE LETHAL MILITARY?

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

I'm saying Dems did better than a wet turd, and a wet turd should have been enough.

Anyone who chose to vote for Trump was the actual problem, whether they voted for him before or not. They chose violence.

[–] lurklurk@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Anyone not voting for Harris, really

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Well apparently not it wasnt enough. Either the wet turd wasn't enough or they didn't do better than one. Either way, you're acting like a Democrat right now. "It's the voters who are wrong!"

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

The voters (and non-voters) are wrong. That isn't acting like a Democrat, that is acknowledging that the election results were putting a fucking felon who tried to overthrow the government back into office and that is the stupidest fucking outcome possible.

That is the country kicking itself in the dick. We played ourselves.

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