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[–] pjhenry1216@kbin.social -5 points 1 year ago (35 children)

I'm confused. Isn't "block" on the fediverse essentially the same as mute on Twitter? Don't get me wrong, I dislike Elon as much as the next sane person does and I do like the idea of block as it's implemented on Twitter vs fediverse, but I also understand why it's not possible on the fediverse. So I'm kind of just asking, isn't it kind of shooting ourselves in the foot to argue against him on this point? He can easily turn around and just say it's the same way as the fediverse. And I feel like it's even worse when we use the fediverse to make these accusations. It makes us look either stupid or hypocritical. I guess there's a small sliver of hope in the argument "you should implement the best block the technology allows" but that seems a lot more nuanced then many people will listen to.

[–] phatskat@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Comparing the platforms and making some weird “is it ok to criticize Twitter when Lemi does it the same way” argument is weird.

Elon can turn around say whatever he wants because he owns the comedy club he paid way too much for, and because it’s a free internet, and because he literally doesn’t care about facts or feelings or anything other than being popular to a weird gaggle of trolls. Believe me, if he points at Lemi to say “see? They don’t have blocking and they’re making fun of me” it’s because it bothers his ego and nothing more.

And Twitter needs to have blocking. People have to be able to remove harassment from their social existence there. I assume a number of hateful accounts will/have resurfaced on my feeds with the removal of blocking, thankfully I haven’t used Twitter since he took over and I won’t.

[–] pjhenry1216@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't understand why different platforms have different needs. Why does Twitter need it, but every application on the fediverse does not?

Edit: and how is it weird to criticize someone for doing the same thing someone else does when you're ok with that someone else doing it? That's literally defining double standards.

[–] phatskat@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No one said the fediverse doesn’t need it. I’d argue that it does.

[–] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I feel like everyone is skipping over my comment of understanding why the fediverse doesn't and the one comment about the nuanced approach.

Too many people don't understand ActivityPub's limitations. You can't implement that level of blocking in any feasible way. That's literally why no one does it.

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