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[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 130 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (18 children)

He's right. In a declining capitalist state like the current US, workers want change. In the absence of a genuine working class party that correctly blames capitalism and the capitalist class for a revolution, you get a "radical" capitalist-funded party that at least points the blame at someone — marginalized people.

The dems only offer to preserve the status quo, and no one fucking wants the status quo.

Get organized. Liberal democracies in the imperial core historically always slide to fascism.

[–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (8 children)

Any example at hand of these liberal democracies that hystorically always slide to fascism? What does imperial core mean?

[–] tiredturtle@lemmy.ml -1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It's an interesting ending to an otherwise fine comment. Bernie would slide the US towards liberal democracy, further from fascism

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's not how Capitalism or fascism works. Capitalism is in constant decay, this decay leads to sharpening contradictions and fascism is deployed to protect Capitalist interests. Bernie would not end Capitalism, he may only slow it's rate of descent, not stop it or reverse it. A great work on fascism is Blackshirts and Reds. I can provide a longer Marxism intro reading list if you'd like, but Blackshirts is a great start.

[–] tiredturtle@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

I know, no need to worry. My comment didn't portray Bernie as some anticapitalist Jesus who can single-handedly force a revolution if that needed clarification

[–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Imo, that fact that people voted and vote in the USA doesn't mean that USA isn't a fascist country. Just look at how bullishly they waged wars, and made millions of people suffer torture, pain, abandonment. They're the epitome of "me ne frego!"

[–] tiredturtle@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

Yup, many auth/fash/totalitarian/oligarchies/etc hold elections which don't matter

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