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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 63 points 1 week ago (8 children)

The worst one for me is that there's some chode near me that displays a flag on his house fucking bragging that he's voting for a convicted felon.

They're proud of the fact that they're supporting a criminal, and I bet they'd be ok with him if he was an open Nazi as well (they're just fine with the same tactics and having literal Nazi flag wavers in their midst).

[–] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Adam Conover's last video changed my view on the shock. They're not voting for him despite his bad qualities. They're voting for him because of his bad qualities. Telling them he's a Nazi and a felon and blah blah blah will reinforce their idea that he's the right guy. When people who worked in his government come out against him, the response is, "Of course they did. They're part of the swamp we're trying to drain."

Reason is dead. We're never going to convince these people that Trump is unfit for the job and a horrible human being. It's time to stop being so shocked these people exist. They always have and will continue to exist. All we can do is show up and end the man's political career.

Post-election update: 14 million vote spread between Biden '20 and Harris '24. Trump was only down maybe 1½ million votes between '20 and '24. Hey Democrats, where the fuck were you on Tuesday?

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I understand them. I'm not American, and I'm something like a middle class so I'd vote for blue. And most of the people here probably think the same, we have that echo chamber. But if I were poor as I was most of my life, and that's like most of the people voting, I'd vote red.

The reasoning is that both of the candidates don't address the main problems of the society, the last one to do it was Bernie, before him I don't even know, not Obama though.

The problems are education, healthcare, worker rights. You may say the Dem Presidents tried to do something about it but they didn't and actually didn't even try, the problems weren't solved, they are actually worse(not because of their actions, their "actions" really didn't matter and were just for show).

During Trump life got worse, during Biden life got worse, even during Obama life got worse, and now they suggest which kind of "life will get worse" to choose. So as a poor I'd pick the option that's closer to destroying the system altogether than the option that will just make me more miserable to choose another miserable option in 4 years.

I heard a lot(fuck, A LOT) here how Trump will make himself a dictator and destroy the system but if one stupid clown can do it may be it's the government system that's bad. Really bad. And maybe you should address that issue but nobody does.

Maybe you should address the problems that make the people vote for a fucking clown instead of just labelling them stupid.

[–] osugi_sakae@midwest.social 4 points 1 week ago

I heard a lot(fuck, A LOT) here how Trump will make himself a dictator and destroy the system but if one stupid clown can do it may be it’s the government system that’s bad. Really bad. And maybe you should address that issue but nobody does.

I don't think it is as simple as that. Fox "News" has been informing republicans' world view for like 30 years. The Supreme Court has basically been taken over by partisan Republicans, which is super ironic given how long and loudly republicans railed against "activist" judges.

Much of the used-to-be credible media is now owned by billionaires. Even the ones that aren't want to at least keep their access in the event of a Trump win.

Trump did significant damage in his first term, but, as the cliche says, "the guardrails held". Thing is, he learned both about those guardrails AND which people he could trust to choose him over the Constitution.

So, yeah, there are things that should be done to make the system more resilient to internal attack, but without significant time and effort, no majority of USA citizens will every be convinced to support that sort of change.

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