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[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (51 children)

Fuck anyone who hunts bears.

There is a natural order to prey and predators.

If you're going to hunt a predator, and it's not for sanctioned wildlife management culls, get a Bowie knife and have at it. Otherwise, I hope you suffer a horrible death.

I'm not anti-hunting, at all. Hunting is easily the most humane way to eat meat. But hunting predators is a sport, not subsistence.

You can pretty much guarantee that anyone who hunts predators for sport, is a gigantic asshole and you should not feel bad about wishing them harm. I would take that statement even further, but I don't want the mods to remove this comment.

To be clear, no one likes bear meat, they're opportunistic scavengers. These bears were hunted for sport most likely, but the hunters were slightly better than your average bear hunting asshole, and at least didn't waste the meat. Most likely because it would be a wasted kill, and illegal.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (17 children)

I wish gun owners would advocate more for hunting invasive species, like in the US there's too many feral hogs and nutria.

[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 month ago (3 children)

They do. Texas allows ariel hunting of hogs, there's no season, and no tag limit. I know lots of other areas have similar approaches of differentiating hunting laws and seasons when it comes to invasive species.

All the hunters I've known, have been an outdoor guys and nature conservationists, but also conservative usually.

[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 10 points 1 month ago (5 children)

No tag limit? That's too far. I think the limit should be..say...30 to 50 feral hogs.

[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You should come and see how many and how invasive they really are.

[–] Reyali@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Psst…he was making reference to a meme (see other reply for screenshot).

[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I think they still have legal requirements about wanton waste, or at least best effort.

The no tag limit makes sense though, as they're an incredibly invasive species and the aspirational goal is removal.

None of this should be considered legal advice, I could be mistaken on the regulations. You should check them out yourself to make sure I'm not full of shit, or confused.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 3 points 1 month ago

Seems like not everybody got the reference.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We need to do a complete extermination of the feral hog population, not only should it be no tag limit there should be a bounty on them.

[–] Floey@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The difference is that feral hogs are just that feral. They aint native and are an active harm to the environment, while the incentives may be perverse they would also be decently more effective than what we have right now.

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The point of “perverse incentives” is that the plan doesn’t create a solution at all and isn’t remotely effective because it can can lead to things like some dude catching young females and throwing them in an enclosure with a male, letting them go once they’re pregnant, actively kill off the produced males, and repeat with the females.

If you tell a city to bring in dead rats for a reward, someone is going to start breeding rats in his basement.

Edit:

To make it clear, I’m for no tag limit, but I worry about rewards. Let the sadists go wild with blood. :p Not that I think hunters are sadists, it just takes a different kind of person to massacre on a scale like that.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fair enough but such systems have worked in the past, the Aussies put a bounty on emu after the Emu war which worked out quite fine. Maybe mandate that that blood samples and location of kill must be turned in as well that way the department of fish and wild life can do some checking on things. I feel the bounty system could be implemented pretty easily, actually just make it so only hunters with a specific license can get the bounties with regular property check ups.

[–] Kanzar@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Bit harder to breed emus than pigs.

[–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

I got it, even if nobody else did.

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Texas allows ariel hunting of hogs

And how is a mermaid supposed to do that?

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

You drop the mermaids onto the hogs from the air; Surf 'n Turf.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Most gun owners that I know are not hunters. I'd like to change their perspectives and get them outdoors.

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